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I hate you, Peter.
Tuesday, February 17. 2009Podcast 7: Season 2 TNG - It's still Monday...somewhere!
Both AoD and I wanted to make sure and release the podcast on a regular weekly basis. Due to circumstances involving the laziness of AoD, it took us a little longer for us to put this together. But the good news is that we were able to muster our forces and manage to get this posted on Monday. We also had to use a different microphone because AoD reminded me too early to grab the office mic. Hopefully you won't be too displeased. I shan't forget the proper mic again.
This podcast covers episodes 1-5 of Star Trek: The Next Generation, Season 2. Our "Special" guest for this podcast is none of your darn business. Due to the length of this podcast, we may begin only covering 4 episodes per podcast. But we'll keep you posted. Various topics discussed in this podcast include: Troi is too much woman for Joey Joey & Peter continue to not understand women Selfishness How long do you want to prepare to die? Peter applauds Joey Secret LARPing - Here is the link to Jon's comic on LARPing Joey hates Jerry Lewis Id, Ego, & Superego - yes, we go back to high school English How to deal with deaf people Direct MP3 Download RSS Feed Subscribe Using iTunes Here are the ratings that we gave for each show: The Child:
Joey: SciFi - 5 Television - 6 Peter: SciFi - 4 Television - 3 Where Silence has Lease: Joey: SciFi - 4 Television - 2 Peter: SciFi - 4 Television - 2 Elementary Dear Data: Joey: SciFi - 4 Television - 3 Peter: SciFi - 5 Television - 4 The Outrageous Okona: Joey: SciFi - 3 Television - 1 Peter: SciFi - 2 Television - 1 Loud as a Whisper: Joey: SciFi - 2 Television - 2 Peter: SciFi - 3 Television - 3 If you have something to say then we welcome your comments below, or feel free to email us at [email protected]. Trackbacks
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Johnny Elbows on :
Pete,
Just the day before I listened to this podcast, I heard a program on the radio (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=97550640) that talked a bit about an epidemic of gang rape in Cambodia. One of the girls that they interviewed went to a wedding where she was raped by six men. One of the things that surprised me most about the program was this girl's response to the experience. She said "A famous adage in Cambodia says that men are gold and women are cloth. The former is easily cleaned; the latter easily stained. Mao says she feels this stain. She is angry and ashamed. 'Everybody, you know, none of us are perfect and I also feel it's my fault because I wanted to go to the wedding . . . ' That is almost unbelievable to me. Because she wanted to go to a wedding, the rape that happened there was her fault?! As strange as it seems, I think Joey is right. Victims of rape do seem to feel unwarranted guilt. Radar on :
Thanks for the comment. You are correct, and I do know this. But what I don't understand is how they can feel guilt. That woman in the story did nothing wrong. What the heck is wrong with "society" that women are pre-conditioned to think that?
Ancient of Days on :
I'm not convinced it's social conditioning - I personally think it's "nature", not "nuture", that causes this kind of thing.
Sideshow on :
I don't know that I can agree with it being Nature over Nurture.
In the example that Jared provided, the society very much treated men greater than women. She was raised to think that men could do no wrong. In other examples, I wonder how much of the guilt is misplaced? I wonder are they feeling guilty of being raped, or are they feeling guilty for not being able to stop it, and just misplacing the guilt. I think that someone who is otherwise well adjusted, who isn't in a Men are greater society, like the above example, the act of the Rape will cause a re-thinking of who they are. The fact that they were unable to prevent the Rape, is in contrast to what they've thought about themselves, and it's the destruction of that image, and the inability to prevent something they feel/think they should be able to prevent, that causes the guilt. Sideshow on :
I haven't listened to the Podcast yet, so I don't know the context this is in, but I will say, that the unwarranted guilt, isn't specific to just rape victims. It also affects victims of Domestic Abuse.
I used to have a friend, who had been in a very abusive relationship before I knew her, and whenever we talked about it, she always mentioned how she couldn't leave, because of a feeling of guilt. Johnny Elbows on :
I haven't ever watched Star Trek faithfully, but I have noticed that in your podcast descriptions of the characters, Data seems to be fascinated by the character of Sherlock Holmes. Do you agree?
If so, why do you think that he is? Ancient of Days on :
Absolutely. Data first became aware of Sherlock Holmes in the episode "Lonely Among Us", when Riker called Picard a private eye.
As to why, I think there are at least two plausible reasons: 1) Some subset of the writers liked Holmes, and this is their method of working him into the plot. 2) The writers view Data's positronic brain as particularly suited to logical deduction - if it were the way he approached "problem solving", it would be normal to expect that he would be fascinated by coming across a human who also did it, helping him close that gap between android and human. Sideshow on :
Crusher? Really? No, Not at all.
Radar on :
Amen brother.
joN. on :
okay, from now on i'm taking notes when i listen because there are always like ten things i want to comment on that are replaced by ten more things as i'm listening.
but right now i can only remember two. first -- a higher form of life can experiment on a lower form of life. doesn't that justify nagillum's actions then? how about q's actions? is humanity supposed to just stand aside and take the abuse that comes with such experimentation because experimentation on lower forms is 'justifiable'? i realize it could be argued that humanity isn't a lower form of life than nagillum or q, but it's not humanity that makes such a definition is it? it's the form of life that's doing the experimenting that makes the distinction between higher and lower life forms. this is why i have what i call 'comfort guilt' in my lifestyle based on carnivorousness and products tested on animals. second -- the idea that data's dejection in learning the holodeck audience wasn't really laughing at his jokes is an emotional response. i see it as emotional, definitely. in fact, in viewing tng right now, there is a moment in every single episode where i think, data's totally being emotional right now. the fact is, he's gotta be the most sensitive member of the crew. some people wouldn't call sensitivity emotion. i do. data's demeanor is often based on others' actions -- primarily the negative ones. it's almost like data's desire for emotions isn't for just emotions -- but specifically for POSITIVE ones. his life seems to be one constant charlie brownish experience. so much so, that his friends are actually delicate with him when they give him bad news. there's no need to do that with a being with no emotion whatsoever. joN. on :
oh hey i remember! abortion!
i think i heard some comment in there about how the episode 'the child' didn't have the standard leftist agenda on it and troi decided to have the baby. actually, i've been thinking lately about how unusual it is that we don't see more abortions in the entertainment media. perhaps i'm watching the wrong shows, but 90% of the time i would say the decision is to keep the baby (see: friends, knocked up, party of five (i think?), juno, moonlighting, the o.c., scrubs, etc.) the abortion is very much the exception to the rule. in fact, if i were more pro-life i'd be very offended that the decision to have an abortion continues to carry a stigma in television and movies today. |
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